• dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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        “Are you suuuuure you don’t want to use Edge? Are you suuuuure you don’t want it to be the default handler for .pdf and .svg files? Are you sure? Are you sure you’re sure? Just in case, we’ll pin it to your start menu again and put a shortcut to it on your desktop. Just until you’re sure.”

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          Apple’s starting to get more and more into this. Safari pesters you and nobody wants NEWS/Stocks/AppleTv App, Weather, etc. But you can’t uninstall them :(

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            I was able to uninstall all of the apps you just mentioned on iPhone just to cure my curiosity.

            Which Apple device is not letting you uninstall those apps?

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                No worries! I was just a little confused when I tried it on my iPhone and it worked.

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                That’s what sudo rm -rf is for 😇. I’m going to try this on my Mac to satisfy my curiosity! Will report back.

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                  If only it were that easy. You have to disable SIP basically permanently if you want to do that and I’m not confident enough to do that quite yet, much as I do love to live dangerously. Maybe someone who understands this all better might chime in on the tradeoffs or risks/benefits.

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                    I’m kinda shocked that it didn’t work (tried it)! From what I’ve come to understand, the system won’t boot after removing a stock app since the checksum of the system partition changes. Whilst I’m in favour of keeping the OS healthy that way, some of the stock apps should definitely not have been included in that partition. However, today I learned!

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            I can always count on at least one idiot to mention Apple in a Microsoft hate thread.

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              I think you should go back to Reddit if you want to engage with people like that just crazy right out of the gate

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                    Nope.

                    I pointed out the reliability of such a response.

                    Big difference between pointing out something vs demanding it stop.

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          I got so annoyed with the fucking shortcut reappearing that I put it in one corner of one monitor that I hardly look at so it never appears on my main desktop monitor.

          Just out of sight and out of mind.

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            I put it in one corner of one monitor that I hardly look at so it never appears on my main desktop monitor.

            lol I did the exact same thing. That and all the unnecessary crap my work installs that I will never use but can’t even uninstall the damn shortcuts they slap on my desktop are all jammed in the corner of a monitor off to the side.

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          And then they made it where you can’t just select a different browser, you have to go manually associate each type with the new browser.

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            Which means it’ll probably be training on literally everything you do on the computer and reporting it all back to Microsoft

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                  Windows itself has been a good reason to get rid of Windows for a long time

                  🤣 … best sentence i’ve seen today. +1

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                    “As possible” is a key concept here. They’ll want to avoid anything illegal or likely to get them sued.

                    You realize that there are many big companies that use Windows that have a ton of proprietary information on them, that would go completely nuclear on Microsoft if Windows started leaking that information into an AI-training project?

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              And most likely they’ll come 'round to your house and harvest your organs while you sleep, too.

              Where are these “probable” scenarios coming from? This seems kind of overboard.

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                  “training on literally everything you do on the computer and reporting it all back to Microsoft” is rather a big jump from “report lots of telemetry data.”

                  I’m not saying people shouldn’t be paying attention, but this thread is jumping straight from “there’s a potential risk here” to “OMG Windows is spyware, delete everything!” There’s already a lot of hysteria surrounding AI, let’s not go nuts without some kind of actual reason.

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                    “now now, calm down everyone. Let’s see what the Orphan-Crushing Machine really does before we start getting upset. Just because it is fully capable of (and seems exclusively designed to) crush all orphans doesn’t mean it is actually going to crush ALL the orphans. Probably just a few orphans really.”

                    There is a reason Microsoft stopped caring a long time ago that it is so easy to install and use Windows without paying for a key. You can STILL use any old windows 7 key you have to active windows 10 and 11. You can use the OS nearly in it’s entirety (as far as home users are concerned) without even doing that. It is because Windows is no longer Microsoft’s biggest product, the user is.

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            Just like Cortana, however, there will be a way to disable it via Group Policy somehow. That’s because government institutions that use Windows will not be happy with there being a feature in the OS that is capable of listening to a microphone and transmitting what it hears to a third party. I know Cortana can take voice commands, and I’d doubt their AI thingy will be much different in the user facing implementation.

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      Which is also when they regularly try and get you to mistakenly click a button to make Edge your default browser. Scummy dark patterns.

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            I don’t know about Windows 11, but my Windows 10 instance also reverts my “fast startup” setting on every major update. I know this, because my PC’s motherboard does not work with “fast” startup and instead takes about half an hour to get from POST to desktop when it’s enabled. Suffice to say that I know when Microsoft changes this setting behind my back. I have it disabled for a reason, fuckheads.

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              AMD?

              I’ve got a Gigabyte Auros Elite X570 with the 5600. I have to disable fast boot from BIOS because it causes my computer to boot up much more slowly.

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                I think Fast Boot is more about screwing up anything third party.

                If it’s on, it bollixes up the wireless card if you reboot into Linux. But even without dual-booting, it seems to leave USB devices active that I don’t want (specifically a USB->serial adaptor with a peripheral danging off of it)