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  • Zagorath@aussie.zone
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    1 year ago

    Except that you absolutely can if the company has a good remote culture.

    The company I was at prior to the pandemic and all throughout the height of the pandemic had such a culture. Even before the pandemic our work chat had rooms for different teams, different products/projects, and general subjects including non-work-related ones. And the chats were active and lively. And during the pandemic it only got more so. There was a very strong bond between coworkers, including new people first onboarded as WFH.

    After we got bought out by a new company and they mandated 100% from the office, I left (as did over 50% of the years of experience in the dev teams). My new company is actually still hybrid/remote, with most people working from the office occasionally but anything including 100% remote being allowed at least after initial onboarding.

    But I actually think this company is really bad at remote culture. There are a handful of public chat rooms but they almost never get used, and there’s nothing off-topic at all. It creates a feeling that reaching out to someone is a bigger hurdle than it was at my last place, and greatly reduces collaboration.

    At my last place, working collaboratively was the norm and it translated extremely well to remote work. Here everyone is much more siloed and I don’t think it works as well. Especially if your goal is to create interpersonal bonds.

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      1 year ago

      I think that any study you find over the past 30 years will show that while online relationships can be meaningful in some cases, the average person will not form as strong a connection as they would in person.

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        1 year ago

        The term for this is parasocial relationships, and you have truth to your claims

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            1 year ago

            Huh, weird. The Twitch chats I hang out with and I tend to use “parasocial” as a term in which people develop a relationship with others that people haven’t really seen or spoken to. I’ve seen them and myself use the term to talk about how chats have relationships with streamers themselves, which aligns with your definition, but I’ve also seen it used between Internet users that have minimal interaction with others aside from texting.

            I’ve made friends online via Xbox that I have on other social media and that know my face/voice/background, but I try to secure more of my anonymity these days. I wouldn’t consider those relationships as parasocial, but in some ways, depending on how the relationship evolves and grows or decays over time, I’d say they dip in and out of being parasocial and tangible.

            Perhaps parasocial might be better thought of as a class of relationships people share that are digital and that don’t manifest IRL in any meaningful ways (excluding face/voice/identity).

            Maybe the idea I’m getting at here has a term coined for it already. I’d be willing to change my vocabulary if you suggest something!

      • rambaroo@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Because they aren’t putting effort into it and neither is the company.

        If you can talk to someone you can form a relationship with them. Period. This is not hard to figure out.

        Remote culture requires putting effort into it. You have regular online events with the team just for fun and you ask people to stay after the scrum for an open floor once a week or so, etc. You invest in the social aspect of remote work.

        Studies can say important things but they can’t contradict lived experience and their methodology can also be flawed or biased.

        • whatisallthis@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          I’m not limiting this to work.

          And of course you can have a relationship with someone remotely.

          But overall, for the average person, in-person relationships are going to be stronger. Friends, family, romantic relationships, hobbies, work, you name it.

          • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
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            1 year ago

            But also, why would I want a close relationship with anyone at work? Especially when doing it online is more work?

            No thanks. I’ll stick with my friends outside the office, tyvm. (To be clear, I’m agreeing with you.)