• schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business
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    1 month ago

    Isn’t he the same person who calls adblocking piracy?

    I mean I get that Youtubers have no morals and it’s all about money but that seems excessively hypocritical, even for a Youtube “personality”.

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      1 month ago

      Isn’t he the same person who calls adblocking piracy?

      He’s also got a generally nuanced opinion of piracy, in that it’s justifiable in some situations. If you call it piracy and you’re okay with piracy then it’s not really a contradiction.

      Being willing to talk about it despite working against your interests isn’t always bad depending on context.

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      Isn’t that essentially what it is? Getting something for free through certain means you wouldn’t get for free otherwise? Which means no money goes to whoever owns the service you’re using?

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        Say you walk up to some person giving out free samples of food. As a condition of taking this free sample, you also must take a pamphlet of advertisements from the people who are giving you the free sample. You take your free sample, and then walk away while dropping the pamphlet in the nearest trash can. That’s essentially what ad blocking is. You’re simply preventing certain parts of a web page from being downloaded to your device. That’s why people have issues with the “piracy” label, because nothing is being “stolen”. You’re just refusing to take all of it.

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          More accurate comparison would be taking the sample but refusing the pamphlet. Dropping it in the nearest bin would be skipping the ad after 5 seconds.

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    1 month ago

    I don’t see any mention of the YouTube adblock trick, so from the vid:

    Copy YouTube URL. Paste it in Bing and search. Scroll passed Bing’s sponsored bullshit and click on the thumbnail for the video you searched. It will then play, still in Bing, with no ads.

    So if you’re on a work or government or w/e computer that doesn’t allow installing adblock extensions, there ya go. No downloads or anything, just YouTube and Bing.

     

    …this is the first time I’ve ever had any interest in using Bing, lol.

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    1 month ago

    Funny, considering in the past he’s gone on big rants about how adblocking is no different from piracy, and is theft.

    But then again, its Linus we’re talking about, its not like he has a particularly big issue with theft anymore.

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      1 month ago

      Do you have a source? I’ve watched his videos for awhile but I don’t remember hearing this take from him.

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        No, because that isn’t Linus’s take.

        I think he’s referencing a stream once upon a time where Linus discussed the arguments around streaming and it’s impact on creators, from a creator’s perspective .

        But because he uttered something in favor of ads on his videos-which is how they got paid-he’s now considered ultra pro invasive ads by the user above, who professes to not actually watching Linus

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            I really don’t get the hate he got for that take.

            Circumventing the method of payment could be argued as being a form of piracy. From that point of view, adblock is piracy.

            Like them or not, YouTube is not a charity and requires the serving of ads to continue funding the service. You could argue about how they go about it, but it’s a fact they need some sort of income to continue to exist.
            Same goes for YouTubers. They get a percentage of that ad revenue. And they also need some form of income.

            But just because he said so doesn’t mean he doesn’t understand why adblock is used. He didn’t say “don’t use adblock.” He’s shown how to use adblock before and since. He’s also mentioned that buying something from their webshop gives them a lot more money than turning off adblock.

            Saying “watching movies for free is pirating” isn’t the same as saying “you shouldn’t pirate movies”.
            Using adblock isn’t engaging with YouTube on YouTube’s terms.

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              Adblocking isnt piracy, from any point of view.

              Its protection. Protection from sudden loud noises and visual diarrhea. Protection from malware and viruses from random website ads, and protection from Right Wing Extremist Propaganda like PragerU videos detailing how the black man should be grateful for the history of slavery and oppression (which has had a documented, factual effect on driving people into right wing extremist behavior, and the violent rhetoric and actions that inevitably follow)

              As long as all of that exists, Adblocking will never be piracy. Adblocking is, and will be, mandatory protection.

              And if Linus, or anyone else, wants to clutch pearls and cry about adblocking… They can take their complaints to Google/Facebook/Other Ad services, because their lack of moderation and inability to policing content on their services are directly responsible for creating the necessity for adblocking.

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      I don’t understand why people are all pro-piracy but then get offended when someone accuses them of piracy…

      He never went on any “big rants”. He’s mentioned it a few times, and he’s right. You’re bypassing payment (in the form of watching ads) to watch the video. LTT doesn’t really care because AdSense only makes up a small portion of their income, which is why he’s shown many different times, many different ways to block/bypass advertising. I could make an argument about how he’s “pulling up the ladder behind him” but I digress.

      Regardless “piracy” is a fairly convoluted term with no concrete definition and it’s a dumb argument for anyone to have.

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        You’re bypassing payment (in the form of watching ads)

        By this argument going to the bathroom during a commercial break is piracy.

        This isnt “someone being offended when accused of piracy”

        This is " People getting upset when an idiot tries to blame end users, instead of holding the people who created the problem accountable"

        Cause adblock isnt a user problem.

        Its an ad service problem. They created a hostile environment where people had to run adblockers to protect themselves against unmoderated and unpoliced content and malicious/infected advertising.

        If you have issues, blame the people who caused it, not the end users trying to protect themselves.

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          By this argument going to the bathroom during a commercial break is piracy.

          Only you didn’t go to the bathroom. The ad just never appeared.

          Chances of you getting up and leaving the room every time an ad comes on: 10%.

          Chances of you blocking an ad with an ad-blocker: 100%.

          This isnt “someone being offended when accused of piracy”

          I think it very clearly is.

          This is " People getting upset when an idiot tries to blame end users, instead of holding the people who created the problem accountable"

          Whether it is piracy or not has nothing to do with blame or responsibility. You’re still just taking personal offense to being called a pirate and conjuring up nonsense arguments to combat it.