I recently discovered that you can get Microsoft Edge for Linux (🤢🤮) and am curious… does anyone here use Edge for Linux, or have you ever? What was your reasoning for using it?
EDIT: Well, you all have provided some interesting perspectives I hadn’t ever considered. Including one which means I’ll have to install Edge, so… thanks, I guess. 😂
Probably a godsend if you’re a web dev. No more rebooting or running a second PC/VM for compatibility checking.
Na, edge users don’t file bug reports 😂
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Should have redirected to FF tho
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Then that’s understandable, of course
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At least you can take comfort that you probably contributed to saving her from some ie malware in the future
They are the bugs!
The only possible use case I can think of, but I’d still want to restrict the thing to its own VM out of paranoia.
isn’t it just chromium though?
Yes it is, but with extra Microsoft!
It has a slightly better privacy policy compared to google chrome while fully supporting progressive web apps on Linux. Edge is also very much so more efficient in terms of system resource utilization. It also has high quality native built in translation which I need. All of this means I use Edge as my PWA browser.
Chromium lacks native translation support. Firefox PWA support is not good. Edge was the least bad option for me. 🤷♀️
How is edge more efficient? It’s literally chromium
Chrome is basically Chromium+bloat so this doesn’t surprise me.
And Edge is chromium + Microsoft Bloat.
One could argue using it on Windows means only allowing M$ to spy on you, theoretically. Though I would not be surprised if M$ uses a custom version of Chromium including Google trackers, so the opposite of degoogled chromium.
Based on.
With the same amount of tabs with the same sites Edge uses fewer resources. I think Microsoft did some fine tuning or something. It’s not just just me that sees this either.
This is a 2 year old link but it shows the difference. https://www.tomsguide.com/news/chrome-firefox-edge-ram-comparison
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The core browser is still good, but they keep changing and adding annoying things and doing questionable privacy things like sending images to their servers “for enhancement”. For a while they removed the ability to remove sync data, but I think it may have been added back again after backlash.
Brave has PWAs, but I’m not sure about the translation support
True. But brave is run by a crypto advertising company. Their business model is advertising and crypto tokens. I trust crypto bros less than I trust Microsoft.
I trust crypto bros less than I trust Microsoft.
Why trust either? #firefox
He literally explained why he doesn’t use Firefox.
Because firefox’s PWA behavior is not as I wish…
What I wish is a firefox fork dedicated to PWA. It should be Privacy first and as intuitive to use as it can. Best would be, if it was designed like an app store.
Called PWApp-sore, I guess
Sadly I have no time to (learn) develop(ing)
In my opinion no proprietary browser is worth using.
Chrome isn’t better in any way than Edge, as both don’t respect it’s users privacy and decisions (dark patterns, etc).
I agree.
If a browser ain’t open source, I ain’t gonna use it and neither should anyone else.
I always use edge whenever I’m making a public presentation with a computer I use. Simply because I never use it. Then autocomplete won’t embarrass me if we look something up.
Why dont use any other browser, like vivaldi, brave, librewolf, ungoogled chromium, that are not made by data hungery big tech like Microsoft.
Those are all solid options, so you might be tempted to use them. I keep a windows partition on case I need it for something, but I’m never tempted to use it unless I absolutely have to.
I’ve got an SSD with windows 11 on it…
It’s been sitting for about a year.
Or just launch second profile… Firefox / chrome(ium) supports it. No need to use different browser.
Many of those have shady Histories and CEOs. Many are seemingly made by normal companies, but those are owned by Chinese organizations. The only real alternatives would be Librewolf/FF and Degoogled Chromium. That would be a matter of preference, mostly. And you don’t even have to use Librewolf, you could just use a seperate, clean profile in FF. Launch it with
firefox -profilemanageror on about:profiles, @dukeofdummies@lemmy.world
Incognito/Private mode?
I use Edge on Linux as my user agent in Firefox on Windows just so I can give some engineers a laugh.
I set it up with my work profile for Office 365 stuff.
I’ve given up the hope that Office will ever come to Linux, so instead I’m just trying to use the web version more.
Similarly, when I’m on a contract that requires O365 and teams and doesn’t supply a work device I use Edge strictly for work to quarantine Microsoft away from the rest of my usage on Firefox etc.
Wait, you want Microsoft office products on your Linux machine? You- you want Microsoft products??
@NegativeLookBehind @cujo @BitingChaos some people don’t have much choice. Their jobs demand it. At least in Linux you’d be able to really sandbox them and route them through filters to prevent spying if you know what you’re doing.
No, I get not having a choice. But he specifically used the word “hope” to describe his desire to have Office available for Linux.
Would I rather use outlook on a work linux machine, or Thunderbird on a work windows machine? The former. Every. Single. Time. MS Office suite availability on Linux would make it easier to do my job, potentially
I hope that Office will be available on Linux in addition to Adobe Acrobat. LibreOffice, OnlyOffice, etc. aren’t good enough for documents that use advanced Office features. Same thing applies to Acrobat.
Well, it’s for work stuff, so I don’t have a lot of choice.
Several years ago some higher-ups chose Microsoft to provide all services. Exchange, Outlook, Teams, OneDrive, etc.
I can use LibreOffice or whatever for documents, but everything else is Microsoft.
A native version of Outlook would be nice.
Look, I have a love / hate relationship with Outlook but it is the best email client by far and the web version works great on Linux ( especially on Edge ).
For me, Outlook is the difference between being able to use Linux for work and being forced to use Windows or MacOS.
[…] Outlook […] it is the best email client by far […]
You must be kidding. I get it that you might be required to use it for work (I’ve been in that boat more than once). But outlook is a terrible, buggy, and infuriating clusterfuck of an email client. There are so many better alternatives. It has piss-poor handling for different encodings, still not defaulting to utf8. Randomly showing garbled Chinese letters to some people sometimes for no obvious reason. Losing connection to Exchange for hours without telling you. Still not supporting quoting standards which have been around for three decades. The settings are a convoluted mess. Filtering can only be done via a super clunky and unintuitive GUI; no scripting support. I could go on and on and on … The only thing where it is arguably better than other alternatives, is with the calender integration and for planning meetings. But that is only because that is not a common email client feature, hence why most email clients don’t have it at all. But even for that there are alternatives which are on par if not better. Kontact from the KDE suite comes to mind. I mean, which demented mind at Microsoft thought it was a good idea, that an email equals a calendar entry for a meeting? The obvious way to implement it is that you have two things that are linked, that reference each other: one email, one calendar entry (like everybody else implements it). Microsoft: emails and calendar entries are the same thing - delete one, lose the other. I can not wrap my head around how anybody can have used outlook and comparable alternatives and come to the conclusion that the infuriatung dumpster fire of outlook is “the best thing”. Either you haven’t really worked with a meaningful number of alternatives, are trolling, or have some severe mental issues (Stockholm syndrome?) that you should seek help for.
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Learn to read. That was an exclusive or list with mental issues as one option. Nowhere did I say anything about a handicap.
Many people have mental issues: I get the thousand-yard stare when I see the outlook interface.
I don’t use it as its proprietary and spyware
Nah it’s proprietary garbage. If it weren’t proprietary it would be an option (although in that case a “deMicrosofted” version would be better). there are free Chromium browsers and free browsers that aren’t chromium, this one offers nothing of interest.
Yo I’ll install this bs right now if it allows me to watch Netflix into such in 4k. Anyone tried that?
Edit: Nope that’s not a thing
FUCK NETFLIX DISNEY AMAZON AND ALL THE OTHERS
Set sail, matey. The actors are on strike anyway. You can afford to hate a corporation or two.
I always thought it was hilariously pointless, does that count?
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I currently use Edge for mostly one thing, its “Read aloud” feature.
Because you can use some of the Azure neural voices its currently the best, free, easily accessible text-to-speech available.
It can even do PDFs quite well. Really helps when I’m too unable to focus for reading long texts but can still listen well enough (ADHD).
Annoyingly this feature isn’t available in Edge on Linux
I did not know this was a thing. I might have to actually use Edge now.
No… I don’t want to use a browser made by Microsoft. They will turn it to shit as soon as they can get away with it, and I’m happy with Firefox.
I have it on Steam Deck since it can be launched with a CLI argument to force a 1280x800 window.
Vivaldi pretends to be Edge when visiting Bing to unlock GPT-4, and prefer that to Edge on my other devices. (Secondary to Firefox, ofc)
Installed to use bingGpt. Never use it. But somethis it get some updates.
I use it on snap!
(J/k, I don’t)
