What would prevent Lemmy from becoming another Reddit if it gains the same user count? Not promoting specific users only because they have a lot of Karma?
reddit and all commercial social media make more money when they have more users, so they attract a lot of users with ragebait and clickbait.
we don’t profit if we have more users, so we don’t have an incentive to send clickbait and ragebait, and the absence of these toxins alone will probably drive up the quality a bit.
Agreed on the greed aspect, I’m wondering how would we defend against bots and incindiary propaganda differently from eg Reddit. My guess is that Lemmy is susceptible to that just the same
If Lemmy, or any other fediverse social network, ever got that big, you would be guaranteed there would be plenty of splinters of de-federation in the network. There would be small networks totally isolated from the mainstream cluster, and others that only federate parts of it. You could choose to hang out in some counter-cultural bubble, or choose a curated connection to the biggest networks, if you didn’t want to engage in them fully. The trick would be finding “your people,” but the tech works.
Fair point. I was kinda confused when I first tried to join Lemmy and went for lemmy.world. Hopefully if shit hits the fan people will be less reluctant to switch over to other instances
What would prevent Lemmy from becoming another Reddit
You’d need to convince every one hosting a Lemmy instance (and all possible future ones) to sell their platform for money or blackmail them into submission…
With Reddit, they only needed to convince Spez which is like convincing an alcoholic to have a free shot of his fav poison
Nothing prevents it totally. It could 100% be just as bad as Facebook. But only those servers owned by those propaganda pushers. It is harder to take over the whole and push your agenda to all users, when they can simply block your instance and let you stew in your hate.
Best example for that: the tankies, which are mostly ignored or ridiculed outside their own safe spaces.
And while I do think there will always be nationalistic fuckwards, I think the big number now and in the past are only possible due to massive propaganda. If that is not possible, people steer more to “normal” stuff. Because most people are not majorally negatively affected by the status quo.
Yeah, after writing it I felt it was wrong. What I meant is: most people are not hurt by what is being pushed in the mass media as source of the problem. If that outside factor goes away, they will focus more on what is happening around them. That the status quo in our current world is hurting a lot of people is absolutely correct, sadly.
What would prevent Lemmy from becoming another Reddit if it gains the same user count? Not promoting specific users only because they have a lot of Karma?
reddit and all commercial social media make more money when they have more users, so they attract a lot of users with ragebait and clickbait.
we don’t profit if we have more users, so we don’t have an incentive to send clickbait and ragebait, and the absence of these toxins alone will probably drive up the quality a bit.
Agreed on the greed aspect, I’m wondering how would we defend against bots and incindiary propaganda differently from eg Reddit. My guess is that Lemmy is susceptible to that just the same
If Lemmy, or any other fediverse social network, ever got that big, you would be guaranteed there would be plenty of splinters of de-federation in the network. There would be small networks totally isolated from the mainstream cluster, and others that only federate parts of it. You could choose to hang out in some counter-cultural bubble, or choose a curated connection to the biggest networks, if you didn’t want to engage in them fully. The trick would be finding “your people,” but the tech works.
Fair point. I was kinda confused when I first tried to join Lemmy and went for lemmy.world. Hopefully if shit hits the fan people will be less reluctant to switch over to other instances
You’d need to convince every one hosting a Lemmy instance (and all possible future ones) to sell their platform for money or blackmail them into submission…
With Reddit, they only needed to convince Spez which is like convincing an alcoholic to have a free shot of his fav poison
Nothing prevents it totally. It could 100% be just as bad as Facebook. But only those servers owned by those propaganda pushers. It is harder to take over the whole and push your agenda to all users, when they can simply block your instance and let you stew in your hate.
Best example for that: the tankies, which are mostly ignored or ridiculed outside their own safe spaces.
And while I do think there will always be nationalistic fuckwards, I think the big number now and in the past are only possible due to massive propaganda. If that is not possible, people steer more to “normal” stuff. Because most people are not majorally negatively affected by the status quo.
tell me you live in a rich country without explicitly saying so
Yeah, after writing it I felt it was wrong. What I meant is: most people are not hurt by what is being pushed in the mass media as source of the problem. If that outside factor goes away, they will focus more on what is happening around them. That the status quo in our current world is hurting a lot of people is absolutely correct, sadly.
It’s not moderated the same way as Reddit