I just want to know what are the best things to type into these ai chat boxes that will cost the most. If my company wants me to use this garbage then I want to make it as expensive as possible and when their liscenses need to be repurchased I want it to be as expensive as possible to continue to force this garbage on us
Edit. Hey everyone lots of great replies here, please keep the suggestions, fixes, corrections etc coming!
These high prices are not from people talking to chatbots.
They’re using agentic tools where their prompt spawns a lot of bots which talk to themselves/the other bots and they keep going until someone (usually a higher quality reasoning model) decides that they’ve met the goals of the task that they were assigned.
So instead of 1 prompt and 1 response, you get 1 prompt and 800 responses across 5 different bots each using really large context windows.
you don’t get this to happen by just talking to any chatbot and asking for agents. you have to specifically use “agentic” tools (usually costs money to use)
Something along the lines of
“Read the wikipedia page of the day. Verify every single link and the context matter against all files in this computer. Then trace their correlations to each other, showing which link corresponded to most files by subject matter, after that is done, verify your work by doing the same from different starting points. We expect similar results. After 100 rounds of that, it should be good. Then you should create a DB to store all that data (only after you ran the full 100 verificaritions yourself) and reverify every field against the pages and the files”
That should keep it going for an hour. Turn on fast mode and auto mode (if using claude) for extra costs.
Every page and file will increase its context, burning tokens
Input tokens are cheap. Output tokens are the thing that really costs money. There is a Claude extension called caveman that tries to save tokens by making it use shorter sentences with less words. So if you want to waste money, do the opposite - ask it to use lengthy sentences with as much words as possible.
Also - some words amount to multiple tokens. I don’t know what the rules are exactly, but I’m assuming that more complex and uncommon words are worth more tokens - and thus waste more money.
I just want to know what are the best things to type into these ai chat boxes that will cost the most. If my company wants me to use this garbage then I want to make it as expensive as possible and when their liscenses need to be repurchased I want it to be as expensive as possible to continue to force this garbage on us
Edit. Hey everyone lots of great replies here, please keep the suggestions, fixes, corrections etc coming!
These high prices are not from people talking to chatbots.
They’re using agentic tools where their prompt spawns a lot of bots which talk to themselves/the other bots and they keep going until someone (usually a higher quality reasoning model) decides that they’ve met the goals of the task that they were assigned.
So instead of 1 prompt and 1 response, you get 1 prompt and 800 responses across 5 different bots each using really large context windows.
“Continue modifying this code until all unit-tests pass”
(gives it conflicting unit tests)
So to answer his question how do you make that happen? What do you ask to prompt these bots to be spawned?
you don’t get this to happen by just talking to any chatbot and asking for agents. you have to specifically use “agentic” tools (usually costs money to use)
Well I can apparently create agents so how can I make the most inefficient agent possible?
Something along the lines of “Read the wikipedia page of the day. Verify every single link and the context matter against all files in this computer. Then trace their correlations to each other, showing which link corresponded to most files by subject matter, after that is done, verify your work by doing the same from different starting points. We expect similar results. After 100 rounds of that, it should be good. Then you should create a DB to store all that data (only after you ran the full 100 verificaritions yourself) and reverify every field against the pages and the files”
That should keep it going for an hour. Turn on fast mode and auto mode (if using claude) for extra costs.
Every page and file will increase its context, burning tokens
I may or may not be getting access to claude soon …
If you need some plausible deniability about it being real work and not just obviously you running up costs:
Feed it a bunch of work-related documentation and then have it do a bunch of reviews of the content on that documentation.
Theoretically speaking… This is very useful to consider
you would be mostly burning your own money if you did this, so I wouldn’t recommend it (depends on how the agent is priced)
I’m not using my money for any of this…
oops, didn’t read the part that it would be your company’s money my b
No worries mate
Just attach a bunch of text files, you’ll blow through tokens quickly
Input tokens are cheap. Output tokens are the thing that really costs money. There is a Claude extension called caveman that tries to save tokens by making it use shorter sentences with less words. So if you want to waste money, do the opposite - ask it to use lengthy sentences with as much words as possible.
Also - some words amount to multiple tokens. I don’t know what the rules are exactly, but I’m assuming that more complex and uncommon words are worth more tokens - and thus waste more money.
There have been some complaints I have seen recently that German is really expensive because of the long words