• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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    15 hours ago

    Basically, Facebook’s argument is “Than was Then, This is Now,” and New Mexico is saying, yeah, that’s nice, but you still have to pay for what you did back Then.

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    I don’t see how no one is talking about a how Republican Billionaire bought out Dominion, and now has control of all those voting machines.

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      11 hours ago

      i had a feeling the voting machines were always Republican owned, adjacent. they only ever were used in red areas. they are known to be hacked by russia.

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      18 hours ago

      Well a republican billionaire owns the media too so of course they’re not talking about it.

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      Would it be better if a Democrat billionaire bought out Dominion?

      Well…probably. But the crux of the problem is that voting machine companies are a thing that a billionaire can own.

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        10 hours ago

        Trump literally told people “I already have the votes” before the election. No need for long knives when it can be done from a laptop

      • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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        Depends on whether or not you’re a partisan ideologue.

        Both parties are united in keeping Greens off the ballot, so my vote is worthless.

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          Wdym? Republicans love the Greens, just like Democrats love the Liberterians.

          Republicans can thank Nader just as much for Bush as Democrats can thank Perot for Clinton.

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            No. You are factually incorrect.

            You’re assuming we’d vote Dem if Greens weren’t on the ballot.

            Which is bullshit. I’ll write in the Green candidate before I vote for Blue MAGA. Further, Bush I and Gore lost because they were weak candidates who didn’t appeal to enough people to win, regardless of your excuses.

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              Blue MAGA… I am going to be honest, I like this a lot better than the pretending to be anarchists or libertarian of past voting seasons. It is still painfully oblivious as to why people vote Democrat, but it feels like you guys put in some thought this time… Stupid thoughts, but still there was an attempt, and I can appreciate that.

            • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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              I think you misunderstand the spoiler effect. It’s working as designed.

              The problem is how we vote, not who is on the ballot. As long as the winner is going to be the one with the most votes, then more contenders will mean the winner will have a smaller overall share.

              The margin in Florida for the 2000 election was so small that if half of the Nader voters voted for Gore, Gore would’ve been the clear winner of the state and thus the country. Both left-leaning, environmentalist candidates.

              But, like you, they let good be the enemy of perfect, and incidently got us Bush, who was (checks notes) much worse for the environment.

              Third parties, in this system, only serve as tools of the opposing major political party. They are absolutely worthless for any progress at the federal level. Do you think a green president could actually get anything done without a green coalition in congress, or among Governors?

              There are only three paths for third parties to ascend:

              • We change the voting system, get rid of FPTP, or
              • Third party builds momentum in lower offices, or
              • One of the established parties completely implodes upon itself. See also Whigs, Democratic-Republicans, Federalists.
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                This is way. I mean if you are going to vote otherwise vote third party to help them get that 5% mark for federal funding and better ballot access.

                But honestly we have to choose the most effective strats at all levels. Vote in the primaries Dems for progress or repubs for harm reduction choices. Vote for local politics where shit actually gets done. Vote state level where voting changes and law enforcement actually gets decided. Vote for the best of the two if your state is close, vote third if the worst evil is slated to land slide your state.

                Get support and support mutual aid. Join resistance networks. Support your community and worker coops. Boycott everything that supports evil where you can. Etc etc.

                Honestly it seems like a lot but most of the nations politics don’t fucking matter. Filter for politicians that are on your ballot boxes otherwise they are just idealogues you like to listen too. AOC and John Thune are like 80% relevant for most Americans. They can’t vote for or against them.

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                  God that 5% is just such flagrant bait, too.

                  Yeah, that seems achievable…on the surface.

                  Except almost every presidential election of my lifetime was less than a 5% margin to begin with. With the exception of Reagan, every single one has been <10%.

                  That 5% is legit the most important part of the fucking election. And it’s a carrot to draw out “enlightened centrists” who can’t see past their own eyebrows.

                  If the greens get it, it’s essentially a “thanks for the assist!” from the Republicans, no matter what…because that margin is enough to enable them to win.

                  And the way this government is going, do you think they’d even see the money 4 years later?

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                I don’t have anything nice or kind to say to you in response to this screed.

                So I’ll just say: have a nice day.

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                shrugs

                Get your Blue MAGA friends to do something about the fact that, under Obama, my dad’s business regressed because he indulged his billionaire buddies and let them get off scot-free for pillaging the economy, and then under Biden my mom and dad, at age 80, had to drive for DoorDash to survive in a car they borrow from me.

                I don’t care that Democrats say nice things. People can’t fucking eat in this country, and they did their part to make that happen just as Republicans did.

                Both ruling parties are fascist turds. Pretending otherwise is silly now that people’s basic standard of living no longer exists.

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                  17 hours ago

                  Yes, but the real question is do you want fascism-lite or a more traditional fascism?

                  What a choice!

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    Meta: I don’t recognise New Mexico as a state. Only New America exists. Therefore I’m dismissing this case. Thanks Donny.

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    A state that I didn’t expect to take a stand like this, to be sure

    Obviously, there are very few tech bros there pulling strings