• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    Man this is fucking exhausting. The treadmill of these policies.

    EU lemmings, who or what groups are promoting these? It feels like every time one gets defeated another crops up and that it’s relentless. Is this an astroturfed or organic campaign?

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        It’s tech giants in general trying to monopolize the Internet through regulatory capture. They’re the only ones who can afford to implement the age verification methods demanded. Laws like this effectively turn the Internet into cable TV.

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        Imagine failing so hard to create a metaverse, blowing literal billions of dollars and a large chunk of their entire net worth, and still having a ton of money leftover to push this shitty idea for almost a year at a global scale.

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      I would be very surprised to learn there is an organic demand for this shit. Sure there are some lazy parents who might want this without understanding the wider ramifications, but for the most part it is mix of authoritarian politicians and corporate lobbyism doing the work.

      Any legitimate political demand would not be made again, and again, and again, and again… Even after it gets voted down repeatedly. There are undemocratic forces at work for sure.

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        Sure but there have to be organizations behind these policies. Someone is proposing this stuff again and again. This is mirrored by corporate lobbying in the US, where grassroots movements can resist it, but corporate lobbying almost always wins out in the end, because its sustained by industry. So we can resist a policy a few times, but if the same bad ideas keep re-emerging, eventually one gets through.

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          Oh i agree, it is utterly farcical that they can even do this against the will of the people. A rejected proposal should not be able to be submitted again after some minor cosmetic changes.

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      There’s broad support for stopping predatory behavior by corporations that are targetting kids (and adults, but mostly kids). This is mostly the same stuff people have been complaining about for a decade or so at this point. Loot boxes, gacha mechanics, ad infested (and therefore stuffed with spyware for “marketing”), complicated multilayered digital currencies, battle passes, daily login rewards, etc. Basically all the well known dark patterns.

      However rather than addressing the bad behavior directly, politicians either through malice or incompetence (likely at the behest of corporate lobbyists) keep putting forth these ID laws that just make things worse instead of actually solving the problem people have been complaining about.

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        These politicians know full well what they’re doing. At least they should and there’s no excuse. But they know.

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          I’d assume many do, although some are likely just entirely out of their depth and are just listening to what the lobbyists are telling them.