Welp. So much for that. Fairphone it is.
I have literally bought a car once for less than this.
(Used and pretty old, but still, a whole fucking car).
Completely wrong target for GrapheneOS. The GrapheneOS demographics, which I belong to, isn’t interested in high-end phones. They want a no nonsense simple phone with lots of storage and security first design.
- fancy AMOLED screen: don’t care
- 5 fancy cameras: don’t care
- super powerful CPU and GPU: don’t care
- storage space: yes please, I have photos and music to store locally!
This will be harmful to GrapheneOS project. It will go like this: no one buys the phone because it’s too damn expensive and full of features the privacy nerds like me don’t care about. Even fewer buy the phone with GrapheneOS pre-installed and it’s a total flop. Motorola stops the partnership saying “we did it and no one wanted it”. No other OEM wants to partner with GrapheneOS after that.
How about two middle class cameras instead of 5 high-end, for a price point of 800 €…
I mean, is this on purpose, so they can say “nobody wanted it” ?
Yeah, still, id rather just go with a fairphone running linux. This whole phone and price tag is ridiculous, literally a monstrosity
(slightly off on a tagent but relevent)
i mean at this point, i feel like phones are just hostile, and computers are the last bastion of freedom in the digital world. run linux, connect to phone hotspot then you are free to use whatever encrypted programs you want, bypassing “client side scanning” or whatever bullshit they want to implement. like… from how i see it, google will eventually kill the bootloader unlock from pixels, and the vast majority of phones, even if bootloader unlockable, does not have relocking with custom keys and also lineage is kinda insecure (at least thats that seems to be the internet consensus), even if it might be more private.
Phone should just be a “modem/router” thing, your gateway to the internet, the actual stuff should just be done on a portable computer. Australia already started a whitelisting thing for phone, its only a matter of time.
Still some space back there for a few more cameras.
Yeah no, even the 300-350€ (don’t remember it exactly anymore) I spent on my Pixel 9a were overpriced to me, I don’t even need half of the storage, RAM and CPU speed in here. We really need way less capable but equally as secure phones, who the fuck needs that much computing power to browse websites and write on Signal?
F*ck me, 2000 dollars?! I really wanted to give this a go, but def not for that amount of money
we and our 198 partners
My god
Well … guess I’m still going to be stuck with used older pixels. There’s no way in hell I’m spending 1900€ for a goddamn phone.
I like GrapheneOS but I don’t like it that much. 2 thousand dollars… God damn.
I didn’t know that for the sake of my privacy I have to spend such a sum of money, like it costs almost like an iPhone or a normal computer, it’s just crazy😱😱😱
Well, this is defintely not good for the GrapheneOS project. they’ve already been criticized for being only accessible by techbros and people with sufficient resources to buy a Pixel. A lot of people were assuming a lower price from Motorola. This is crazy.
Yeah same, they also choose to drop support for phones as soon as official support drops which is a bit dumb (most firmware are feature complete and don’t have security issue, on the other hand not delivering OS updates with security fixes is definitly dangerous).
I much prefer the philosophy of LineageOS: you don’t want to throw away your 10 years old phone? Just put the latest android version on it and go on!!
I just bought a pixel 10a open box for like $350.
Like I get some people are stuck on Walmart specials, but how cheap does it need to be before its not considered a purchase for the privileged by you?
Well, its not just the money, its the fact that it is a Google product. Many of us, outside the USA don’t trust anything that Google produces, including Android itself (which is why degoogled phones are a thing) nor do we want to fuel the techno fascists running the company.
How brainrotted do you have to be to spend that much on a phone with a sealed in 2-year battery?
I thought that’s not even legal to sell in the EU anymore
That requirement applies from products released starting February 18, 2027 so afaik it released just in time to not be required by law to be user replacable.
Silicon-carbon batteries can last up to 7–10 years.
