I’ve gathered that a lot of people in the nix space seem to dislike snaps but otherwise like Flatpaks, what seems to be the difference here?

Are Snaps just a lot slower than flatpaks or something? They’re both a bit bloaty as far as I know but makes Canonicals attempt worse?

Personally I think for home users or niche there should be a snap less variant of this distribution with all the bells and whistles.

Sure it might be pointless, but you could argue that for dozens of other distros that take Debian, Fedora or Arch stuff and make it as their own variant, I.e MX Linux or Manjaro.

What are your thoughts?

  • wiki_me@lemmy.mlEnglish
    181·
    7 months ago

    Calling it hate is an exaggeration , people are entitled to their opinion and informing other people by criticizing snap.

    Another advantage not mentioned is that snap is a product of canonical (a for profit company talking about an IPO for years), flathub is managed by the gnome foundation (a US registered non profit, which should provide some legal protection).

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
      91·
      7 months ago

      I think hate is the right word. Snap sucks for a long list of reasons, a few years ago it was pushed down everyone’s throats whilst still being broken (it would even break OS upgrades due to being broken, even if you didn’t even use it, fun times) and then canonical started redirecting apt to snap… Yeah, hate is the right word, same with systemd

      • coarse@startrek.website
        1·
        7 months ago

        I definitely hate snaps.

        Moved my server from Ubuntu to Debian because of snaps and ESM.

        Ubuntu is intrinsically less-secure than Debian because they lock security updates behind paywalls. We really should stop recommending it as a community.

    • Possibly linux@lemmy.zipEnglish
      54·
      7 months ago

      I could care less about legal status. In fact, I think it would be cool to have a profitable software center that was able to allow for projects to get more funding.

      • wiki_me@lemmy.mlEnglish
        4·
        7 months ago

        paradoxically just because an organisation is a non profit does not mean it does not sell anything, it means that the people who “own” it are not doing it for a profit (e.g. voting members, board members , that is what is suppose to be legally guaranteed ), for example the wikimedia foundation (the creator of wikipedias ) sells access to data, MIT university for example is also a non profit.

        and i feel like the profit incentive might cause problems for the snap store, flathub warns when an app is closed source so it might be risky to use it, snap does not do that and maybe that is because that could hurt profits.