• Thatuserguy@lemmy.worldEnglish
    562·
    5 months ago

    Oh cool, good to see the power button is still on the other side of the fucking menu. You know, the thing that I’m clicking on 90% of the time I’m opening the Start Menu? Why have that easily reachable like in past versions of Windows? Silly me I guess.

    • JustARegularNerd@lemmy.worldEnglish
      591·
      5 months ago

      This isn’t the first time Microsoft has done this, I remember this being a huge gripe for me with Windows 8/8.1

      • FiveMacs@lemmy.caEnglish
        46·
        5 months ago

        Hey that was when they thought it was also a smart idea to force that shit tablet view on users…

        • Damage@slrpnk.netEnglish
          82·
          5 months ago

          I didn’t mind it actually. Like I don’t mind the GNOME overview or whatever the thing that comes up when you press Meta is called

          • Blisterexe@lemmy.zipOPEnglish
            91·
            4 months ago

            i love the workflow of gnome, it takes time to get used to but its really nice

            • yeehaw@lemmy.caEnglish
              5·
              4 months ago

              Gnome is still a bit quirky to me and I’ve been running it on my latest install. I still don’t get their idea of by default, without extensions, how I’m supposed to use software that requires a tray icon to use.

          • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
            31·
            4 months ago

            I guess the difference is that the Gnome overview has been thought out amazingly, has a fantastic search function that actually works, and Gnome takes heavy advantage of their superb implementation of workspaces (virtual desktops).

            Gnome doesn’t really feel designed for tablets, it feels designed for everything. Hot corners, large click targets, and having good keyboard shortcuts makes it feel good on a desktop, amazing trackpad gestures make it feel at home on a laptop.

            Win8 had options scattered everywhere, a search that was just starting to turn bad, and initially did silly things like only let you use one app at a time, no matter your screen size. It was forcing a tablet UX that just felt wrong on a PC.

            I think Microsoft were hoping thin and light foldable/tablet devices (that were all the rage at that point) were a good way to sell more windows licenses (thin and lights are weaker hardware so will likely need updated more to keep up with performance demands), hinges are weak points so hardware will be replaced more, all meaning more licenses sold. They were trying to force Windows down this path, IMO. When that failed, they turned to much greater data harvesting, ads, etc.

            • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              4 months ago

              Come on, it’s totally intuitive! Just put your mouse in the top right corner, off the screen, and swipe down to make the “charms” bar slide out from the side.

              Wait, what?

    • Vahtos@programming.devEnglish
      201·
      5 months ago

      Then you wouldn’t notice all the fun and exciting recommendations they have for you! /s

        • orclev@lemmy.worldEnglish
          51·
          5 months ago

          Just wait. At the rate they’re going it won’t be long before you’re forced to sit through a 30 second full screen ad in order to even open the start menu.

      • HeyJoe@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        4 months ago

        I was about to comment this. And to anyone saying they are taking that away we all know how bad they are at removing legacy options so I’m sure this will be here until at least windows 14.

    • Blisterexe@lemmy.zipOPEnglish
      91·
      5 months ago

      genuine question, why do you click that button? Why not use the physical button on the device?

      • JustARegularNerd@lemmy.worldEnglish
        481·
        5 months ago

        Software shutdown button presser chiming in.

        There’s two reasons I tend to use the software button. I know for a fact that clicking “Shut Down” will actually shut down the computer. If I press the hardware button, the computer usually is configured by default to sleep. Yes, I could change this default behaviour on all the devices I use, but then there’s the second reason:

        From a psychological perspective, I tend to associate the hardware button as a “only use if system is locked up” button.

        • naticus@lemmy.worldEnglish
          16·
          5 months ago

          Yep, if you’re in charge of managing hundreds of computers, you don’t want to guess at what it’ll do. We have our defaults but also have people who make exceptions depending on their own work needs. Tbh, I rarely use that button anyhow though, I right click on the start menu to get that menu instead and use shutdown, restart, or log out.

          • orclev@lemmy.worldEnglish
            9·
            5 months ago

            Further reason, the physical button isn’t always in a location that’s convenient to push. Sure it’s usually accessible, but sometimes it’s under a desk or behind a monitor or some other awkward location. Mouse and keyboard by their nature are always located in a conveniently accessible location.

      • Altima NEO@lemmy.zipEnglish
        5·
        5 months ago

        I’m sitting at my desk and my computer tower is out of reach unless I get up and reach over. Gotta showcase that RGB