Oh, man. Anyone else remember how Republicans used to threaten to exercise their 2A rights in response to filling out a basic census report?

Yeah. I miss the days when those folks were considered the standard for “Conservative values”. They were practically antifa back then.

That is a fair point. I apologize to 12 year olds everywhere. That was an unkind comparison.

Uugghh! Every time I hear him speak, I am reminded of just how stupid he is. He thinks like a 12 year old.

Not one mention of how robots that do all the work for us, is going to solve the problem of how people are supposed to be able to afford to live, when no one has a job anymore.

Are you volunteering to pay for everyone’s UBI, Elon? No? That’s what I thought.

Why would being just like China, be worse?

But if they can’t make those things on their own, then that added pressure just breaks things, making them less efficient and more expensive.

If that were possible, they wouldn’t be shipping the back to Taiwan for final processing.

So, now they get shipped back and forth across the Pacific…twice? Wow. So much “winning”.

The culture war outrage keeps people from thinking about real problems. Instead, they’re perpetually angry about shit that has literally zero impact on their lives.

The entire modern “conservative movement” is completely astroturfed. It’s all funded and sponsored by the elites, in order to convince people to reject policies intended to improve their own lives, in favor of policies that exclusively benefit the elites.

I don’t think you’re arguing in good faith,at this point. You send me an article about a specific humanoid robot, claiming it costs $8k. That article clearly states the make and model, as well as provides pictures of the unit in question. It is the Pudu D9 humanoid robot.

So, I sent you the website where it is being sold, which clearly states a price, that doesn’t match your claim…and now all of a sudden, you don’t even know what robot you were talking about before?

Give me a break, man.

Buddy, it’s right there on the page I linked. Even your article says they’re hoping to get the price down to under $30k, at some point. That’s why I looked up their website directly, to see how much they’re currently selling them for. It’s $214k. I don’t know what else to tell you.

Were you not able to open the link to their website? You can buy one today for $214k. It’s the D9 model from your article.

Lol! The Agility Robotics model used by Amazon costs $250k per unit. And is currently only capable of moving empty totes around in a controlled environment.

And the Pudu model you linked, is listed on their website for $214k.

Ummm, except you didn’t give me examples. Can you post a link to these robots that are actually being tested in real world conditions?

Or even a link to the $8k robots that are not the same as the one I found for $6k? I have a hard time believing that another $2k is going to somehow provide the difference between that thing, and something functional.

Lol! Are you talking about this? Dude, this is what I meant when I called them a gimmick. And if I recall correctly, the “shelf stacking humanoid robots that work commercially”, are not actually"working commercially". In fact, they didn’t work at all when given actual things to lift and stack. They could only carry empty boxes, and dropped them more often than not, and tended to fall over all the time.

Like I said, even if they improve to the point where they don’t fuck everything up…all they will be able to do, is the same thing people already do. Except people can also do all kinds of different things, without requiring an engineer to be onsite to set them up for the new task.

Lol! This isn’t “happening, and quickly”. Boston Dynamics has been working on their humanoid robots for decades, and they’re basically at the same stage they were at the beginning.

It’s just a gimmick, my friend. Not a viable alternative to human labor. They don’t perform tasks “better” or “more efficiently” than people. It isn’t even a matter of them improving over time. You simply don’t invest in new technologies that promise to do the exact same thing as the old ones.

Lol! Dude. It isn’t “already happening”. Where are you hearing that?

And are we still talking about humanoid robots, or are you talking about drones and automated roller carts? Because they do have those, but there’s no way they are able to repair each other or build more of themselves. What they do have, is as I said, very task-specific and non-intuitive. If even one variable is out of place, the whole system goes off the rails, and an actual human being is required to put things right again.

That’s pure science fiction. It will never happen. Training people to do various manual tasks is always cheaper than using robots. Automation involves dedicated, task-specific machinery that improves on existing (manual) methods. People are always there to fill in the gaps in what those machines are capable of. We provide that required versatility.

Replacing people with people-shaped robots to do the exact same job that people do, is the opposite of efficiency. There is no improvement involved. It’s literally a lateral shift, with an enormous price tag attached to it.

Labor is the supply. Demand determines its value.

Over time, maintenance costs on machines tend to increase. They all have a practical limit on profitability, before that cost exceeds their contributive value. Then they need to be replaced.