• peopleproblems@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    10 to 30? Yeah I think it might be a lot longer than that.

    Somehow everyone keeps glossing over the fact that you have to have enormous amounts of highly curated data to feed the trainer in order to develop a model.

    Curating data for general purposes is incredibly difficult. The big medical research universities have been working on it for at least a decade, and the tools they have developed, while cool, are only useful as tools too a doctor that has learned how to use them. They can speed diagnostics up, they can improve patient outcome. But they cannot replace anything in the medical setting.

    The AI we have is like fancy signal processing at best

    • RBG@discuss.tchncs.de
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      2 hours ago

      Not an expert so I might be wrong, but as far as I understand it, those specialised tools you describe are not even AI. It is all machine learning. Maybe to the end user it doesn’t matter, but people have this idea of an intelligent machine when its more like brute force information feeding into a model system.

      • RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        2 hours ago

        Don’t say AI when you mean AGI.

        By definition AI (artificial intelligence) is any algorithm by which a computer system automatically adapts to and learns from its input. That definition also covers conventional algorithms that aren’t even based on neural nets. Machine learning is a subset of that.

        AGI (artifical general intelligence) is the thing you see in movies, people project into their LLM responses and what’s driving this bubble. It is the final goal, and means a system being able to perform everything a human can on at least human level. Pretty much all the actual experts agree we’re a far shot from such a system.

        • BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world
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          21 minutes ago

          It may be too late on this front, but don’t say AI when there isn’t any I to it.

          Of course it could be successfully argued that humans (or at least a large amount of them) are also missing the I, and are just spitting out the words that are expected of them based on the words that have been ingrained in them.

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            4 minutes ago

            This is not up to you or me : AI is an area of expertise / a scientific field with a precise definition. Large, but well defined.

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      2 hours ago

      LLM’s are not the only type of AI out there. ChatGPT appeared seemingly out of nowhere. Whose to say the next AI system wont do that as well?

      • Vritrahan@lemmy.zip
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        2 hours ago

        Anything can happen. We can discover time travel tomorrow. The economy cannot run on wishful thinking.

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          58 minutes ago

          It can! For a while. Isn’t that the nature of speculation and speculative bubbles? Sure, they may pop some day, because we don’t know for sure what’s a bubble and what is a promising market disruption. But a bunch of people make a bunch of money until then, and that’s all that matters.