I can comprehend it, but calling it understandable and different in the way that you did frames it as somehow less bad. The individual person is not “their oppressors”. That’s the part I disagree with.
I think you’d balk at someone saying that someone being racist was “understandable” because there was a black gang active where they grew up.
I think misandry is less bad than misogyny, as in it does less harm because of the way our systems are set up in a patriarchal society, but that doesn’t mean my belief is that misandry is good.
I think you’d balk at someone saying that someone being racist was “understandable” because there was a black gang active where they grew up.
That makes sense, I think things like misandry are as harmful as things like misogyny on a case-by-case basis when removed from context, but of course misogyny is far more harmful overall, unless I’m stupid that seems to be what you’re also saying.
For the understandable thing I was working with this definition:
Expected or accepted under the circumstances.
Which I would disagree with, but I think you were working off of this one:
That makes sense, I think things like misandry are as harmful as things like misogyny on a case-by-case basis when removed from context, but of course misogyny is far more harmful overall, unless I’m stupid that seems to be what you’re also saying.
I can comprehend it, but calling it understandable and different in the way that you did frames it as somehow less bad. The individual person is not “their oppressors”. That’s the part I disagree with.
I think you’d balk at someone saying that someone being racist was “understandable” because there was a black gang active where they grew up.
I think misandry is less bad than misogyny, as in it does less harm because of the way our systems are set up in a patriarchal society, but that doesn’t mean my belief is that misandry is good.
Understandable is not the same as excusable.
That makes sense, I think things like misandry are as harmful as things like misogyny on a case-by-case basis when removed from context, but of course misogyny is far more harmful overall, unless I’m stupid that seems to be what you’re also saying.
For the understandable thing I was working with this definition:
Which I would disagree with, but I think you were working off of this one:
Which, if you were, I agree with you.
That’s exactly what I’m saying.
Yep we’re on the same page now.
Nice. It feels like you never get a reasonable conversation online, thank you.
Thanks for taking the time to understand my comments and for being open to other points of view.
We both dislike TERFs, we’re on the same side :)