• Blackmist@feddit.uk
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    I do wonder how some of these companies intend to actually make money with it.

    Anthropic, fair enough, they’ve convinced companies to spend huge amount of money making sure that programmers can’t remember anything or know what that mass of spaghetti does any more.

    And MS, presumably it’s all companies spending money on Office 365 Copilot so emails get put in automated holding patterns, and quarterly reports get flashier graphs.

    Nvidia, they sell shovels.

    But Meta? Their entire business model is scraping data from real people, packaging and selling it to far right politicians and scammers. I’m struggling to figure how AI does anything other than fuck that up.

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    META will be bankrupt within 5 years according to the bond & credit markets. META’s Credit Deault Swaps are surging — lol.

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    Oh yeah, I’m sure they’ll out him any day now…

    This article, like many Futurism articles, is conditioning. It’s wild Futurism gets glazed so much on tech lemmy.

    As the Wall Street Journal phrased it…

    fkn lol.

    These articles do not deserve the attention lemmy gives them, and should be downvoted and called out as such.

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      I was reading an article many years ago about Mark Zuckerberg being obsessed with Machiavellianism and reading sources about it. I’m sure he has thought just about everything to retain power.

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      Oh yeah, I’m sure they’ll out him any day now…

      Facebook is structured in such a way that Mark Zuckerberg can never get fired. So if they want to terminate his position, they have to do so with extreme prejudice.

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    On to the next idea that is clearly a failure at inception to everyone but Zuckerfuck and his circle of sycophants

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      A.) Meta’s issuing new shares for this, so it’s shareholders, not the company, that are going to pay his tax bill.

      B.) The deal is issuing non-voting shares so he still holds the majority of shares that matter after this.

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    They needed to make moves when he was doing his stupid metaverse hobby/project.

    Now they’re hemorrhaging money.

    Get rid of that liability.

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    I do not get the skepticism? I 100% trust Zuckerberg that this will be about as profitable as the metaverse. 🤣 🤡 💸

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        They’re all like this as well. “Look how smart we are, making lots more money by starting with lots of money getting very lucky”.

        It would be like a roomful of lottery winners sitting around sipping brandy, and musing about how they’re better number pickers than anyone else, and sharing tip on picking out random digits…

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        He’s not even a one hit wonder. The only good idea he ever had he stole. His company was built by people he conned and then threw under the bus. Every achievement since then was someone else’s good idea that he bought.

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          I’m sorry, you’re going to have to narrow down which Billionaire you’re referring to…

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        Yep he didn’t build Instagram, WhatsApp, or even the Facebook ad engine, which is arguably Meta’s actual product.

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          They made this movie about him like 20 years ago. It had this scene of him in college in a computer science class. Like he was such a genius and knew better than the professor. So much cringe.

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            Didn’t see the movie, but in the early 2000s he probably did know more than his professor. 10-years before that, my university had exactly one computer for the whole graphic design college. 20-years before that, computer class was, “Here’s, uh, this thing. Have fun.”

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              In a computer science program? At an Ivy League university? After the year 2000? lol no. They had more than one computer and their CS professors would have had PHDs in Computer Science.

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                You’re right, forgot we were talking about Harvard and not my cow school at OK State U.

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    Only in Silicon Valley can a CEO burn billions chasing an AI gold rush, send free cash flow below zero, and then demand a bigger payday for his visionary leadership. The board’s ultimate weapon? Threatening to quit. Corporate governance at Meta is basically a fire alarm that needs Zuckerberg’s permission to ring.

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      Meta does have some very specific issues with their corporate governance in that regard. Mark’s contact basically makes him impossible to fire as CEO. It’s an unusual situation that should have set off alarm bells for investors years ago.

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        That might be just that they’ve got so much money in Meta that they can’t afford it fail.

        Edit: what I mean is that there might be gambler’s fallacy at play

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          Got an email last week that my FB account had been upgraded to Meta for free? I guess they need to fudge the subscriber numbers?

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    They aren’t concerned with the destruction of the planet caused by their quenchless data centers. Or their massive privacy invasion of citizens. Or their tactics used to addict children to their platform.

    At the end of the day, every board member of Meta is just as nasty as Zuck himself.

    Anyone using Meta is feeding the nasty machine

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    Definitely massive risk. They are giving away about $200-$400/week user credits for their Muse agent. Hardly anyone would need more than that, but it requires giving them credit card info. Massive competition being released in this personal agent space, just a few weeks after their rollout.

    SpaceX is going even more nuts. Musk is a fraud supported by Zionist first political rule over US with support for his fraud, but 1.3gw of “spec” datacenters comming online in next 3 months is 5x the hourly gpu rental inventory in the US. BS goal about 10gw extra in 2027 is still gross overspending that makes everyone else go bankrupt from Nvidia price hikes. Grok and Cursor revenue combined still under $1b (last quarter). Zionazi circular financing for GOP corruption will starve rest of industry from access to capital.

    IPOs are failing everywhere. UAE being forced geopolitically to bail out OpenAI with $30b, because they are out of cash. Coreweave needs $2b cash just to make it to end of year, but no one will give it to them. SpaceX in similar cash burn rate.

    SpaceX and Meta are both building to just rent GPUs to desperate labs without firm contracts. All labs have separate plans. Coreweave gives massive discounts that force structural losses before impossible interest costs, and Nvidia’s power to charge whatever it wants for delivery. Collapse is very near.

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      So wait. What is the story with coreweave. You mentioned labs desperate for gpu, and there very much is a shortage. Coreweave rents that. So they should be making miney handover fist.

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      I can’t wait to buy a video accelerator and hard disks for cheap again. So I can’t wait for the AI bubble to pop. The only problems is that the whole economy will tank at the same time…

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        As someone with plans to work in the software dev sector, it’s just bad news no matter what. AI turns out to be magic, no jobs. Industry crashes because of the bubble, no jobs.

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    “I think it’s the right strategy to aggressively front-load building capacity so that way we’re prepared for the most optimistic cases,” Zuckerberg told stockholders in 2025.

    And what if the results aren’t optimistic? Do these people forget there are still some things in the world they can’t will into existence?

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      The real reason is because the data centers aren’t for AI. They’re for taking up all the components so you can’t compute independently anymore and you need to run “apps” from the ”cloud” so they can “monitor” your “behavior” for “tailored ads” and “terrorist threats” and cut you off completely if you ever retroactively violated their updated EULA that covers all the people they don’t like.

      They are stealing computing from us and the business world is letting it happen in the name of cost savings.

      I swear to god before I die I will see capitalism driven into the mud to drown

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        Part of cyberpunk is that the gilded corporations in the sky have white labs and clean computers, but the other part is that street people find their own uses for the leftover hunks of technology considered to be not pretty enough for sale.

        In less convoluted terms, nobody fucking needs cloud computing. We used to write software on things that were half as powerful just a decade ago, and software capabilities have stagnated even as computing power has increased because the focus is more on stupid corporate bullshit than…you know? actually solving problems?

        The phone you have in your pocket (or even posted this post on) is likely more powerful than anything that was even available 10 or 15 years ago. The joke computers that they’ll sell you right now for $200 with an adware-ridden crap OS like Chromebooks are capable of running and even building better software than anything that was available during the first software boom in the late 90s (they just might need a good wiping first).

        I am much more interested in the part of cyberpunk we haven’t seen much of…where people take down Flock cameras and make them into free wifi repeaters or other types of servers and hobbyists take over again. Corporate software sucks nuts.

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    I think that there’s a lot more potential in AI than there is in VR, which was his last expensive pet project.

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      They came up with some cool stuff for VR

      The problem is there was zero overarching vision, no real explanation of how this makes life better (hurray, you can go to VR work meetings! Why would I buy this again?). Plus, Meta is fucking radioactive to the power users who would buy this stuff.

      Similarly, Meta is so toxic I would never trust their AI without my data, and this is playing out with tons of leaks for people using their AI system Muse.

      So while AI has more promise than VR, you can’t trust that to Meta anyways.

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      Possibly, but socials are for people connecting, or they’re supposed to be. So people don’t want AI crawling through their socials.

      It’s one thing to get a summary on a search, just plain annoying to have a post summarised.