Genuinely boggled that anyone would think this is not the same geopolitical players behind Brexit and trump. It’s exactly the same. If there was a big red bus with ‘Alberta will be more free in the US’ it couldn’t be more the same.
- it’s not going to happen; it’s never going to happen
- it’s not about seceding or annexation - it’s about politically dividing Albertans specifically, and Canada more generally.
- Again, this is the same psyop playbook, top to bottom - there is nothing behind it except oligarch money and bot farms.
I hope you are right, and generally speaking I believe the same way you do on the matter. Sure they had lineups 2000 people long in every community, but that’s it. Everyone that was going to sign their stupid petitions signed them the first 3 days.
But if you are like me and live here, the sentiment is very much “fuck Ottawa” more than “fuck Canada.” It’s sad how easily affected a population can be when it comes to propaganda like this. It’s sad really. And we thought thought as a society, making sure everyone can read and write a lawful requirement was a good thing.
Hey, just tossing this out there, but rather than have you guys join America, can we join Canada? Just the nice folks, I promise, we don’t want the MAGAs either.
Canadian or Provincial annexation is a terrible deal for 2 main reasons.
US debt, and power projection, is on a near term collapse trajectory. Insane healthcare, military spending levels for no social services is higher effective tax/oppression rate on people/small business. Changes in provincial (and/or federal) government structure would be extremely disruptive.
Territorial possession of the US is far more likely than statehood. Far less generous autonomy (Quebec especially) granted by Federal government, and autonomy eroded continuously like native treaties have been. Increased north/south trade seems nice, but “real states” will get federal manufacturing incentives, and possessions will be hollowed out to 3rd world level. Jones act regulations on sea shipping means high cost of living.
While tariffs decrease unity as they should, the whole “protect steel and auto workers for outrageously expensive cars in states that don’t have those industries” is reason for highest GDP states to secede from genuinely corrupt political process, that propagandizes swing states on national socialist domination of uneconomic operations delivering no results for them, and shit product for the oppressed states.
You definitely do not need to tell anyone on here twice my friend. Your comment could be used in a sub or two over at Reddit though. Then again, they’d probably just drown you out with “fucking libtard” comments.
And herein lies is the real reason AI is being so heavily funded.
Who coordinates it? I mean, isn’t this the political influencing the right wing fears so much?
But the Left doesn’t want it to happen, so you can see how their hands are tied.
Once again, Putin and his gnomes spreading discord, anything to break the West.
A bunch of YouTube channels that no one watches anyway. Nothing burger.
YOU don’t watch it. But I’ve watched in real time while videos like this appear on relative’s feeds while they doomscroll as they uncritically absorb everything that appears. Sometimes watching the same video two or five times because the damn app loops. And when I point out “you know that’s bullshit right?” The response is always some variation of: “I wasn’t paying attention to what it said I was just watching.” But they are absorbing it because days or weeks later they will parrot that same BS at me in a conversation.
I wish that were true. My elderly father has this slop playing constantly. It’s a struggle to have a conversation based in reality these days.
I am myself flooded by AI astrophysics videos by dead scientists and it’s so annoying.
you mean russian linked accounts, many propaganda videos are provided by troll farms themselves.
Russian, Indian, Egyptian…anywhere where there are poor people to exploit. Derek from Veritasium made a video studying and tracking troll farms years ago. A lot of those troll farms are from the usual suspected countries, where dire poverty push them to desperation, and are exploited by powers-that-be.
Ad Kenya to that list. Our sec team pulled them out of 217.199.144.0/22, and I mean almost every node on that network.
Be a shame if someone knew.
I rarely get ads, thanks to pihole. But whenever my server is down for maintenance etc. I get spammed with “Visit the USA!” and “America the Beautiful” ads. I live in Australia… Why the fuck would I want to visit that shithole country?
It seems like the US is drowning and is trying desperately to get more people in to replace the “illegals” they’re deporting. Maybe I’m just their target audience (straight, white, male) ughh… makes me feel gross.
Just a different kind of gambling ad. Gamble your life for a discounted trip to Disney World. Will you make it big or get sent to El Salvador?
Hi, American here. Please never come here. While YOU would be mostly safe, we are still a dumpster fire.
Eh, if we manage to get our shit together I encourage everyone to visit our national parks. It’s not safe now or for the foreseeable future, but if it is in the future, they really are something to behold.
youtube accounts should be authenticated to a human being in an organisation and those details be public to save democracy
No. Education should be better funded. I’ll give social media platforms my ID when hell freezes over.
Be very, very careful in advocating for that.
I am just curious, what is making you gross?
existing is enough to feel guilty now, apparently.
There has been a concerted effort to isolate Canada and the US from each other in recent years. Also within Canada itself the rise of US style individualism has been depressing to see. Its wild how much social media has been weaponized by most nation states to use against others.
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Yeah just totally out of the blue!
No reason at all I can figure why he’d do such a thing.
/s
I’m genuinely curious if you were born last week or just live in some kind of context-free amnesiac state.
That’s not what I was trying to say, but I think I just misunderstood the post I was replying to
The Trump administration has also been holding meetings with the leaders behind the Alberta separatist movement ( source). At this point I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that the US is performing a targeted destabilization campaign against Canada.
They absolutely fucking are doing that. There may be other parties involved, take your pick. Everything surrounding this is basically a Brexit-style psyop.
Alberta has fossil fuels and minerals. America wants them. Simple as that.
They’re trying to do it all over the world. It’s just easier to do next door bcz it’s close by.
Do you want Cascadia?
Because this is how you get Cascadia.
Literally 0 chance that BC would join a MAGA controlled USA.
… Non-zero chance that it would join WA OR and CA, should an actual dual civil war kick off.
California can’t survive intact without the Colorado river, so you need to convince at least NV, AZ, UT, and probably CO to come too. If California left but Nevada was still part of Trumplandia one of the first things they would do is shut off all outflow from the Hoover Dam.
At 32% approval, and blatant election rigging plans, a constitutional convention should occur instead of planning around impeachment for last 2 years of term.
Yeah, thats a great example of where you run into the differences between ‘Cascadia’ as a bioregion, defined primarily by watershed networks, snd ‘Cascadia’ as a maybe possible legal/political entity, based on current existing borders.
IIRC, the bioregion Cascadia basically only extends down to bits of Northern California… but the political reality doesn’t match well with this at all.
Perhaps state delegates could all send couriers to Goodsprings for a conference, to hash out the details, lol.
Cascadia vs Greater California vs … New Zion/Deseret?
Political divisions tend to use rivers as borders because they’re naturally difficult to cross, but mountain ranges/watershed boundaries would make much more sense for self-sufficiency among the divisions without excessive squabbling. Although BC/Alberta did a good job in that regard!
So yes, it’s mostly Northern California that could join the Cascadia party. Hence my qualifier of “intact”. Unfortunately, NorCal is predominantly on the red team politically.
It wouldn’t be as devastating (or possible) to cut off the Pend Oreille or Spokane rivers from adding to the Columbia.
Yeah, water distribution would be weaponized.
Non-zero? How about 100%? Every single person I’ve ever spoken with about this idea in my life has been on board. I bet 85-90% of the public would support it if the facts could be communicated to them without interference (so, never)
Cascadia would be insanely powerful and competitive on the world stage, probably a superpower.
The immediate problem would be that Idaho, eastern OR and eastern WA are very very seriously trying to do the whole Greater Idaho thing, and are basically chalk full of armed white supremacist theocrat bigots.
So… yeah.
I guess the ‘good’ news is that western WA has JBLM and a lot of Navy bases, and maybe enough of them would align with Cascadia … ?
The bad news is the Holy State of Greater Idaho would probably be able to dash and seize Hanford, and then be able to make dirty nuclear bombs.
But anyway…
Throw in Hawaii and then Cascadia and Japan and SK can form a trading bloc, and theoretically be able to back that up with maybe a little bit of the formerly US Navy?
Total spitballing here.
Alaska sure would be completely fucked.
Airline fuel is pretty expensive these days… for some reason… Didn’t BC/Yukon already basically say ‘fuck you’ to US truckers going between Alaksa and the 48, or I am not remembering that right?
It takes 34 states to declare constitutional convention. Once it starts, no rules. If one of the agenda items include redrawing state lines for more unity, can give more power to groups/states to join separate unions that advance their values.
I think there was some kind of levy they had to pay, but definitely not a complete ban. I don’t think it stuck.
Trump and crew need a reason to stay in office after 2028… They believe being in a war allows that due to “war powers”.
Well, it’s been working for his boss in Israel.
And also allows them to manipulate the stock market for personal gains. Just disgusting.
Since we’re in the cursed timeline, Trump will leave office in 2029 and be elected prime minister of Canada.
the real cursed timeline is they’re going to run someone else in the immediate family for president, like Melania or Don Jr. Have fun with that.
It would be tit for tat for giving us Justin Bieber.
He’s your problem now! No takebacks!
This is classic information warfare. Its been pretty well documented over the past 10 years. It feels like we all know it exists but still fall for it all the same.
Canada should absolutely annex and de-nazify the USA, I’m glad someone is pushing that agenda
American here! Yes please! Start with Cleveland! I live in Cleveland, and I live right on the lake. I’m like a jetski ride away from Canada! We’re practically family!
Plus…and this is the important part…GET ME OUT OF THIS HELLHOLE OF A COUNTRY!!!
I’m kinda surprised nobody has done the opposite of what’s on the OP.
I figure there would be quite a few USAians who wouldn’t mind to secede to Canada.
